What happens if the adjoining owner’s property is damaged when the building owner carries out his works, but the damage isn’t discovered until much later, after the building owner’s works have been completed?
In this scenario, let us assume that in 2009, the building owner gave the relevant party wall notices and a party wall award was made. The work was carried out in 2009-10 but the damage was only discovered in 2012. For simplicity, there was only one party wall surveyor, the agreed surveyor.
This scenario raises a number of questions:
- What works did the original party wall award provide for?
- What compensation did the original party wall award provide for?
- Can the agreed surveyor make an additional award dealing with the 2012 damage?
- What other rights does the adjoining owner have?
The PWA 1996
A party wall award is made under section 10 of the Party Wall etc. Act 1996 (PWA 1996). It protects both the building owner and the adjoining owner by setting out:
- What works will be carried out.
- When and how the works will be carried out.
- A record of the condition of the adjoining owner’s property before the works begin.
- If necessary, what works will be carried out to the adjoining owner’s property.
- Any other matter, including the costs of making the award and any compensation to be paid to the adjoining owner for any inconvenience, damage or loss he might experience during or as a result of the works (section 7, PWA 1996).
A party wall surveyor’s jurisdiction also comes from section 10. Although it is not expressly referred to in the PWA 1996, there is nothing to prevent a party wall surveyor from making more than one award, should the situation call for it. Indeed section 10(12)(c) allows for an award to deal with “any other matter arising out of or incidental to the dispute”, which is generally understood to cover more than one award, and supplemental awards are relatively common.
What the adjoining owner needs to establish
In our scenario, the adjoining owner needs to establish:
- The cause of the damage and whether the building owner’s works were responsible.
- What works were provided for in the party wall award. For example, depending on the nature of the building owner’s works, in addition to how the building owner’s works should be carried out, the award may have set out the scope of certain works to the adjoining owner’s property or a method of working that would minimise any damage to the adjoining owner’s property. It may also have provided for a final inspection of the adjoining owner’s property by the agreed surveyor.
- Whether the building owner’s actual works went beyond the works authorised by the award. If so, then the building owner will be in breach of the award.
- What compensation was included within the award, which may take the form of “making good” damage to the adjoining owner’s property once the building owner’s works were completed, or may be a money payment in lieu of damages that were anticipated to occur to the adjoining owner’s property.
- Whether the compensation payments were actually made by the building owner. If not, this will also be a breach of the award.
Compensation in a bit more detail
Section 7(2) of the PWA 1996 envisages that compensation may be payable to the adjoining owner “for any loss or damage which may result… by reason of any work executed in pursuance of this Act.” In our scenario, the 2012 damage to the adjoining owner’s property falls within that definition.
There is no time limit in the PWA 1996 regarding the adjoining owner’s claim for compensation. However, one needs to consider whether the agreed surveyor’s jurisdiction has ended, or whether he still has jurisdiction to deal with the “late” claim for compensation.
It is often thought that a party wall surveyor’s appointment comes to an end when the work under the original award has been completed and signed off in accordance with the terms of that award. Indeed, in Selby v Whitbread & Co [1917] 1 KB 736 (concerned with the London Building Act 1894), the court stated that party wall surveyors’ jurisdiction was:
“continuous and exclusive… it remains unimpaired until the final adjustment of all questions in difference between the building owners who gave the notice and the adjoining owners who received the notice, and until the operations involved in the notice are concluded.”
However, there is little modern authority on the PWA 1996, and even less guidance on the meaning of “until the operations involved in the notice are concluded”. It is certainly arguable that, despite Selby v Whitbread, the surveyor’s jurisdiction continues because the adjoining owner is seeking compensation for damage that was a consequence of works carried out under a party wall award (section 7 refers to “work executed in pursuance of this Act” and section 10(12)(c) to “arising out of or incidental to the dispute”).
If one relies on sections 7 and 10, then, in our scenario, the agreed surveyor will have jurisdiction to deal with the adjoining owner’s 2012 compensation claim and issue a supplemental party wall award. In fact, he may be the only person that does have jurisdiction, since the PWA 1996 grants exclusivity relating to the works set out in a party wall award.
Support may also be found in the judgment in Onigbanjo v Pearson. Here the adjoining owner consented to the building owner’s works, but was subsequently able to engage the PWA 1996 in order to recover compensation from the building owner. There seems no reason why, by analogy, the adjoining owner should not be able to engage the Act to deal with subsequent damage or loss. In our scenario, this may involve the adjoining owner going back to the agreed surveyor, rather than starting any new party wall procedures.
What other remedies does the adjoining owner have?
The adjoining owner should not overlook discussing the matter with the building owner, trying to reach an amicable settlement with him. This should be one of the first things the adjoining owner does.
Also, regardless of whether the adjoining owner can rely on the PWA 1996, he has a number of common law remedies available to him, although care needs to be taken to ensure those remedies do not clash with any statutory rights or remedies. For example, the adjoining owner cannot sue for damages in trespass if what would have been trespass by the building owner was made lawful by the PWA 1996 (that is, the works were included in the award). However, the adjoining owner could sue for nuisance because nuisance is usually caused by someone doing something lawful on their own land. Perhaps confusingly, the adjoining owner may have a claim in trespass if the building owner’s works went beyond what the party wall award authorised him to do.
The adjoining owner may also have have a claim against the building owner for:
- Breach of statutory duty, provided the building owner’s works fell within the scope of the works contained in the party wall award (see Crowley t/a Crowley Civil Engineers v Rushmoor Borough Council).
- A payment of money, if part or all of the original compensation remains outstanding. This would be recoverable as a debt.
As an ancillary question, if no PWA notice is served and the newly constructed property is sold after completion of construction of the new house attached to the house next door (whose owner had sold garden land to facilitate the construction), is the new owner liable for any damage caused by those works? I am acting for a buyer from an NHBC registered seller who built on to end of terrace and, having purchased the land from the adjoining owner for the development, did not serve a PWA notice on the basis that the works had been agreed as part of the purchase.
And what happens if the building owner’s property has been sold between the PWA being made and when the damage occurs? Are any remedies then available to the adjoining owner under the PWA 1996?
John and Nef
The PWA 1996 does not deal with successors in title. Generally, as is discussed in Practice note, Party Wall etc. Act 1996: What happens when buying a property and a party wall award has already been made?, a purchaser is unlikely to be liable for a predecessor’s building works, unless those works give rise to a common law claim in nuisance or trespass (or breach of statutory duty if an award was made and the works exceeded those permitted). I appreciate your circumstances are slightly different, but similar principles apply. You may also wish to look at Blog post, Buying a property? Don’t forget about the Party Wall Act 1996.
Thank you very much for helpful advice.
I have a problem. In 2010, the owner of the adjoining flat carried out a loft extension. He did not involve me in discussion with his planned works, and failed to provide appropriate notice. After the works was completed, he then left the UK, and let his flat. Soon after the flat was let – about 3 months, cracks appeared on my side of the wall, which run from the top of the house to the ground floor.
Then in 2011, between lets, the owner of the flat repaired his side of the wall- large cracks had appeared there too, from top of the house to the ground floor – in the exact same location as on my side.
in 2010, we asked for compensation to repair the damage. He refused, although accepted liability. We wanted a party wall surveyor to assess the damage, but he refused, saying that he would use his own general building surveyor. Unsurprisingly, this report admitted that some of the damage was caused by the works carried out. Over time, the damage has got much worse, and the cost to repair our side has doubled. We are still trying to get him to agree to payment. He has tenants in the flat.
The room that is most affected is a studio style flat that we used to let. Obviously, we can’t do this since the room is damaged. How can we get compensation for the repairs, and loss of rental income? I am now considering a CCJ, but how to enforce it?
John
I’m sorry to hear about your problem, but we are unable to provide legal advice through this blog.
Therefore as an adjoining neighbour is it best practice to always request a party wall surveyor even if you don’t dissent the proposed works? What if damage appears and a surveyor was not originally sort?
I agree a party wall surveyor would have been the best bet in this case, making certain their licence as a surveyor is not expired, and is not due to expire any time soon.
Hi,
I have an issue whereby last year I had my chimneys removed. I went through the correct process, using party wall surveyors etc (the neighbours managed to delay our works for around 5 months but eventually appointed their own party wall surveyor for whom I was paying).
The work completed in November 2013, however a few days before christmas that year I was contacted by my surveyor saying that the neighbours had some rubble that had come down their chimney and they would be getting a quote for repair. In January 2014 a quote of around £2000 came through, which included installing new flu liners and repointing the chimney. I discussed this with the building inspector when he came around and he indicated that he doubted the work we had done had caused this and was willing to do a survey of his own on my behalf. I also passed this on to my builders, whom the party wall surveyor said would just be able to claim on their insurance, and they also indicated that they didn’t believe it and were happy to get involved if needed.
I went back and asked for evidence (before and after reports from the company that removed the neighbours fireplaces, who they appointed themselves rather than using my builders, but for whom I also paid). It all went quiet and I just assumed that the matter had been resolved since no-one had contacted, however now, in October 2014, I have received a letter from the neighbours surveyor saying that he went to do an inspection earlier this month, for which he is charging me 3 hours and he also wants me to pay for the work (I have still not seen any evidence).
I want to clarify, how long I am liable to pay the neighbours party wall surveyor fees (I am pretty sure the survey did not take 3 hours and most likely involved plenty of tea and biscuits to stretch it for that long).
Also, if I dispute that my work caused the damage they are claiming, would the next step be court and would it be down to my neighbours to initiate it (and pay their own fees)
Thanks
As we have said before, we are unable to give legal advice through this forum. That said, a building owner can only be liable for expenses incurred through the party wall procedure and after a party wall award has been made. Two thoughts immediately spring to mind:
I suggest you look at the original award to see how the works necessary to the adjoining owner’s chimney were dealt with and what compensation provisions that award included.
As far as I am aware, you can only be liable if there is an award. If there is nothing in place to deal with the present situation, you will need to consult with your party wall surveyor again.
I hope this helps.
Hi
I’m planning on having a single story back extension. I am planning to serve a party wall notice on both of my neighbours as I live in a terrace house. If along the line my extension was to cause damage to the neighbours property, for example if cracks appeared or the building started leaning, who will be liable? Is there anyway I can protect myself?
While I cannot give you advice, as you are probably aware, the purpose of a party wall award is to protect both parties. Therefore, I would ensure your party wall surveyor prepares schedules of conditions of both adjoining properties. This will enable a judgment to be made in the future, if one adjoining owner alleges there is damage. Ultimately though, if your building works do cause damage to an adjoining neighbour’s property, you will be liable for that damage under the party wall procedure. I am not aware of a way that the building owner can avoid this liability.
I have agreed a figure for damages caused to an adjoining property under the terms of an Award. Should the figure have VAT applied to it?
I’m sorry that we can’t answer specific questions on this blog, I can only suggest you clarify the award with the party wall surveyor(s).
Hi,
If there is some small damage caused during building work to a neighbours property (with who a party wall agreement is in place) would the builders be required to cover cost of repair or is it the duty of the property owner?
Thanks
As with many things, I suspect the answer will depend on who was liable for causing the damage to the neighbour’s property. That will be a question of fact and not something we can address on this blog.
Hi,
From a slightly different perspective…
As building owners currently involved in works, we have found our adjoining owners property to be in an unsafe condition. We are a ground floor flat and they are 1st floor, with their floor joists sitting on damaged timber, rather than inside the structural wall.
We know this is not structurally sound and our builder has suggested that any structural engineer would condemn their floor. Yet, they continue to say this is part of the PWA and hence we should be fixing it.
Can you give us any guidance?
Thanks
Unfortunately we cannot give legal advice on this blog. However, if you have not already discussed this with your party wall surveyor, I would suggest doing so. My understanding of the PWA 1996 is that the party wall award is there to deal with the building owner’s works, and works arising from those works. I cannot comment on whether what you have discovered would fall within the scope of the PWA 1996. Your surveyor will be able to advise you on whether there is the need for another party wall award, or whether the structurally unsafe works fall outside the party wall procedure.
Although you can’t give specific legal advice I was wondering if you could let me know whether the burden of proof for property damage to an adjacent property was on the owner of the adjacent property or the owner of the property doing the building work.
Thanks
As we discuss in Practice note, Standard of proof, burden of proof mean the legal burden on a litigant to establish the facts that support its case (Wakelin v London & South Western Railway Co (1886) 12 App Cas).
The term standard of proof may also be used in the context of the evidential burden, that is the burden to produce evidence capable of supporting a fact in dispute. This burden rests on the party whose case would fail if no, or no further, evidence on the issue was adduced (Joseph Constantine Steamship Line Ltd v Imperial Smelting Corporation Ltd [1942] AC 154).
In civil cases, the legal burden or standard of proof is balance of probabilities (Miller v Minister of Pensions [1947] 2 All ER 372).
Does a Party Wall Agreement have to be signed off by both parties after a completed works.
What happens if there is a problem that the party doing the work will not address even after a year of completion?
I am really confused about this party wall agreement. Can you enforce a party wall agreement. The neighbour who is undertaking the work is avoiding a party wall agreement. Please can someone advise me.
As we have said before, we are unable to give legal advice through this forum. If you are unable to access Practice note, The Party Wall etc. Act 1996 (PWA 1996), you may find some helpful guidance in the Department for Communities and Local Government’s (DCLG) explanatory booklet on the PWA 1996.
I was hoping for some advice (i know this site doesnt give legal advice). So we had a loft conversion done in 2012. We got party wall agreements with most neighbours but not all 7 (we lived in a masionette). We didnt get a PW agreement with the ground floor flat next door, something I wish we had. We have since moved out and rented the flat out. We had a letter from them a few months ago claiming that our work caused damage to guttering which then caused damp in their flat to the front room, this is 3 years after our work had finished. They claim that they couldn’t get hold of us ( they did have our contact details and we had mail forwarding on) and they are asking us to pay many thousands to repair the gutter, fix the damp and lost rent as their tenants moved out. Note that they went ahead and got the work done before consulting us. I am 100% sure that the guttering issues was there before we did the work and the tenants complained of damp for a long time, and were ignored, before they moved out. We are trying to get hold of the old tenants but no luck so far. Are we liable here?
As you acknowledge, we cannot give legal advice on this blog and I will not comment on whether it was necessary to enter into a party wall agreement with the owner’s of the ground floor flat next door.
We discuss some of the issues that arise in Practice note, The Party Wall etc. Act 1996 (PWA 1996): What if adjoining owner’s property suffers damage after PWA procedure followed? and What if the building owner fails to comply with its obligations?.
In addition, a couple of thoughts spring to mind:
Firstly, it is worth considering what works were carried out when you undertook the loft conversion. For example, did you replace the building’s guttering or carry out any works to the exterior of the property? It may be prudent to involve the original party wall surveyor, if you are unsure of what the works entailed.
Secondly, who is responsible for the upkeep of the external parts of the structure, such as the guttering? I assume that if you own a maisonette, you do so as a leaseholder and there is a freeholder and/or management company that is responsible for such things.
I live in a first floor flat and I propose to carry out a loft conversion with the agreement of my Freeholder. I have served Notices on the adjoining flat owners left and right. Do I also need to serve a Notice on the flat below mine and the ground floor flats in the adjoining buildings, even though none are adjacent to the works?
As I said above, we cannot give advice on this blog and it is inappropriate for me to comment on who party wall notices should be served on. You will need to consider the definition of “owner” and “adjoining owner” in section 20 of the Party Wall etc. Act 1996 see The adjoining owner.
I’m the owner whom undertook excavation works within party wall act, adjoining owner has not suffered building damage but put a written claim in for delays (new build) 18 months ago, I’ve asked his surveyor for evidence of loss to adjoining owners claim and none has been given, however this claim is being used as tool now by adjoining owner threatening me to take me to court. Am I right to ignore his claims and threats, adjoining owner surveyor has knowledge of this whole situation also.
Hi – I appreciate you cannot give legal advice.
But are you able to provide some light on what actions a Building Owner would be responsible for performing when you can prove the works goes beyond the scope of a Party Wall Award – A Breach in the scope and in so doing breaches the party line and boundary line. The works were not necessary as they were nconsistent with other work they had done on other properties on the same street (which they are a landlord of). Also, I have concerns that the (roofing) work has an additional load on the party wall aswell as limiting my ability to improve my property. I have proof that damage has been done where they have pulled back some work.
The ‘agreed’ Surveyor, appointed by the Building Owner, has not resolved the dispute, following the breach, said they are allowed to do what they did. The Surveyors decisions have been inconsistent and based on assumptions about where the party wall line and the boundary line is. This is despite evidence given to prove otherwise. The Building Owner acted on their decisions without prior consultation nor agreement – even when I disputed this and gave the facts to prove my position.
I have tried to talk to the Building Owner separately, and convey agreement is to be given by both of us on where the party wall line and the boundary line is and is to be aided by getting accurate measurements – aided by a Surveyor. And the works should be pulled back to where it is specified in the Award. But they have not committed to this
I have also contacted other Surveyor’s for a 2nd opinion which they are protective about but I do not know what difference their advice would make.
I am also concerned the Surveyor has signed off the works – can it include works outside the scope?
Any advice would be gratefully received.
Many thanks,
Rachel
It sounds like many of the issues you describe arise from a potential boundary dispute with the building owner and, as you rightly acknowledge, we cannot give legal advice.
My property colleagues discuss many of the issues that arise in Practice note, Boundaries and boundary rules.
Insofar as the building owner’s works may have exceeded the scope of what was permitted under the party wall award, see Practice note, The Party Wall etc. Act 1996 (PWA 1996): Failure to comply with the PWA 1996 and breaches of statutory duty.
Thank you.
Hello. We have damage from a basement being dug next to our garage. All admitted and insured to be paid for by the developer. However there are 2 possible solutions: Mini pile or expanding solidifying foam (Uretek). If we choose one and it doesn’t work who will be responsible for paying for the second approach. ie. should we be employing the contractors for remedial work or should the developer? Thanks. Andy
I am afraid that to answer a question like that goes beyond the scope of this blog.
Hi,
My Neighbour carried out a side extension to his property around 5 years ago. A few months ago i noticed some rising damp in my garage which is adjacent to their property. Having gone outside to look there is lot of rubble that is between the 2 properties which has gone over my DPC level but not theirs. This would be from the cement when building the outer wall of the new extension and excess cement would have fallen. I understand that precautions should be in place to stop cement falling into gaps between 2 properties. There was no party wall notice served when the extension took place. Would the neighbour be liable for any damages/claim?
Any potential liability that your neighbour has to damage to your garage will depend on some many factors, and is not something that can be answered on this blog.
A new build next door under party wall agreement in 2010-11. Single surveyor. Cracks in our wall noted – assesses by adjoining engineers and said to be minor will fix by ‘stitching and redecorating’ paid £1800 in 2012 after monitoring for 3 months. We waited and got structural engineer in 2015-16 to plan for loft extension. He reported subsidence due to deep excavation for basement beyond part wall act limits 3 meters. Cracks have widened. Who should we be contacting. 2 flats in our end of terrace property.
I would suggest that you get back in touch with the party wall surveyor who dealt with the party wall award in 2010-11. It would also be prudent to contact the building’s insurers.
Question: if adjoining owner and building owner each appointed a party wall surveyor to advise on boundary position are the parties then bound to accept the boundary position agreed and advised by said surveyors? Our adjoining owner is trying to discount their opinion after we paid circa £1500 for PW surveyors to assess and create report.
Richard, Practical Law editors are not permitted to give legal advice, but you may find it helpful to consider the guidance in Practice note, The Party Wall etc. Act 1996 (PWA 1996): Appeal against the party wall award.
I have an issue with my neighbour that I thought you may be able to give me some advice on and may also provide a good example as a question to be published on the website.
During recent work in which we are building a kitchen extension on our terraced house, we damaged the neighbour’s party wall. 3 bricks on the neighbour’s side of the boundary fell out when creating the hole for the RSJ to sit in the wall (roughly 2m from the ground and moving horizontally from one party wall to another party wall on the other side). Since then the RSJ has been correctly put into place and there is now a gap on the other side of the RSJ where the 3 bricks need to be replaced.
However, the neighbour fell out with my builder over this and although the builder has offered to fix the damage and replace the bricks, the neighbour is now refusing to allow the builder to replace the 3 bricks and make good. He has appointed a solicitor to mediate, a surveyor to oversee the job and a different builder to do the job. There is no party wall agreement in place. My question is: will I be liable for the cost of all this additional work?
As we have said many times, we cannot give legal advice on this blog.
The starting point is always whether the wall is a party wall (as defined) and then, if it is, the fact that a party should comply with the Party Wall Act 1996. It seems that is something you did not do (assuming the wall in question is a “party wall”), which means you are not afforded any of the protection that Act provides to parties wishing to carry out works (section 10 provides a mechanism for dealing with issues such as the one you face).
Your neighbour will have a claim against you at common law, if your neighbour wishes to pursue that claim. We discuss this in Practice note, The Party Wall etc. Act 1996 (PWA 1996): Failure to comply with the PWA 1996 and breaches of statutory duty. We also explain the common law position: see Relationship with law of trespass and private nuisance.
You may find some helpful guidance in Elizabeth Repper’s blogs, Why try to resolve a neighbour dispute using mediation? and Advantages of mediation in neighbour disputes.
Hi, I am in the process of purchasing a barn for conversion. The barn will be semi detached, with the next door neighbours also converting their adjoining barn. Our vendors have signed a section 2 party wall agreement to say that our neighbours can put a roof steel into the party wall.
How can I ensure that the neighbours will be responsible for any damages caused by the steel, prior to me purchasing the barn.
Is this not possible and therefore something I should get put in place immediately after I purchase?
Thanks.
This is something you should discuss with your solicitor, it is not something we can go into on this blog. However, you may wish to look at Tim Reid’s blog, Buying a property? Don’t forget about the Party Wall Act 1996, particularly where he says:
Hi,
I have carried out some work with a party wall in place and the adjoining owners wall has a minor crack in the plaster. We have agreed to repair the crack and paint the wall, however, the adjoining owners is requesting we paint the entire party wall and not just the cracked section. Is this reasonable? does the party wall act provide any direction as to what extent the repair should be done?
Thanks
We cannot comment on what may be reasonable or unreasonable in a given situation. From my own point of view, if repairing a crack and painting over it left a patch of paint a different colour on one of my walls, I would expect the whole wall to be painted.
How is a homeowner to judge if their own minor works could trigger the need for a PWA, under the “3m” rule for excavation? I see 6 foot fences along boundaries all the time – but fitting a 6 foot fence post needs a 2ft hole! Subsequently digging out such a post (and the concrete its embedded in) would require an even deeper hole. Even planting a large shrub from a 12 inch pot might require a hole 18 inches deep. Likewise, digging out shrubs and small trees might require 1-2 ft of digging. It seems “common sense” to me that this would not involve digging below the depths of the neighbours foundations, but what if the foundations were unusually shallow? Could one be criticised for not thinking of the PWA in these circumstances, if there were subsequent damage?
The answer is contained in section 6 of the PWA 1996, where it provides that in relation to either 3 or 6 metre excavations, the building owner must propose to “excavate, or excavate for and erect a building or structure”.
The answer will therefore depend on whether it is an “excavation” when you dig a hole to plant a tree or shrub, or to install a temporary fence. I haven’t researched the point, but anticipate it will be a question of considering what works are envisaged by the building owner (for example, one rose bush, a row of relatively mature trees versus a row of small samplings).
It may also depend on how the hole is dug. Stroud’s judicial dictionary defines excavation as something “made by the contractor in the course of his work on the site”. Presumably, that envisages someone doing something other than planting trees and bushes, but it is not definitive. I’m sure there are plenty of instances where extensive landscaping works are carried out by contractors on behalf of a building owner, and those works are notifiable under the PWA 1996
As is usually the case with anything that involves neighbours, “commonsense” tells me that it is best for the building owner to talk to them before any works are undertaken, explaining what is intended, so any concerns they may have can be allayed. If it is necessary to engage the PWA 1996, then that is something that a building owner must do.
What is the scenario if the adjoining owner has no foundations and we are rebuilding our property and will be underpinning the party wall…we want to cover any damages, if any, caused by our work, however, will we still be liable for damage caused when his walls move due to no foundations and the party wall doesn’t?
The party wall process enables an adjoining owner to be compensated for loss and damage caused by the building owner’s works. The extent of that compensation will depend on the facts of a specific situation and it isn’t something I can comment on here. However, it is something you should specifically raise with the party wall surveyor, in part to ensure the award covers the situation you have in mind. It may also be worth discussing your concerns with the structural engineer that is designing the underpinning as there may be engineering solutions that can minimise the risk of movement.
This might be a very rudimentary question; but I would like to better understand the process for if damage is discovered and there are two surveyors involved. If a neighbour claims damage to their property as a result of the works, do both surveyors have to assess and come to the same conclusion about what was the cause and the amount to be paid etc? Or does it fall on the neighbours surveyor only and goes uncontested. I’m assuming this is a benefit of having two independent surveyors.
Many thanks,
The party wall process envisages that if there are two surveyors, those surveyors will “settle by award any matter which is connected with any work… and which is in dispute between the building owner and the adjoining owner”. I read that to mean that they will try to reach agreement on all matters. However, the process also envisages the appointment of a third surveyor (selected by the two surveyors), who effectively determines matters when there is disagreement between the two surveyors. This is all set out in section 10 of the Party Wall Act 1996, Whether the parties appoint their own surveyors and there is a third surveyor, or there is one (agreed) surveyor usually depends on the scale of the proposed works. I would not like to comment on when it may be appropriate to have one/three surveyors. While you might think that most domestic projects probably do not warrant multiple appointments, they can often be the most contentious.
I am wondering if you can answer my query. Does re-roofing work (tiles, battens and felt and new fire barrier at the party wall junction below the tiles and chimney stack flashings) require a Party Wall Notice? The party wall would be temporarily exposed whilst carrying out the work and there may be some chasing out if the stack for the flashing?
Thank you
Kevin, as with so many other comments on this post, we cannot answer your query. Whether works are caught by the Party Wall Act will be a question of fact. It is worth noting that the DCLG explantory booklet refers to minor works (in section 6) and it may well be that what you plan is akin to someone putting up a shelf on a party wall, which wouldn’t be caught by the Act. However, I suggest you consult the RICS helpline and see what they have to say.
Good afternoon
I live at the end of a terrace of 3 small cottages. We are demolishing and rebuilding ours and will be underpinning the party wall. Neither mine or my neighbours property have foundations we are unsure of property 3 at the other end who 40 years ago had an extension and gone upstairs so imagine some reinforcement would have been required.
My question is how much of our adjoining neighbours property am I liable for as he will be getting approximately 3 metres of his house underpinned front and back? His concern is that there will still be movement from where my underpinning stops and his foundationless starts which will result in cracks. We have appointed an ‘agreed’ surveyor but I am obviously concerned that I will be basically underpinning his entire property thus making it mortgagable and much more valuable.
Any advise and information would be greatly received.
These are issues best discussed with the party wall surveyor and the engineer/architect responsible for designing the new building.
The PWA 1996 exists to facilitate building works. An adjoining owner is entitled to have their property protected from damage caused by a building owner’s works, just as a building owner is entitled to carry out works. What is reasonable in any given situation will be fact-specific but those works only extend to the party wall (as defined).
Hello,
We are currently undertaking works under a party wall agreement, consent was given within the 14 day period and as such no surveyor was involved. Our adjoining neighbour thinks that damage has occured to their property as a result of our work. I am of the opinion that the defects to their property are resultant of the property being unmaintained for over 10 years. So far this has only been a discussion between us and our neighbour with no other parties involved.
Could you please explain to me what the normal process would be to resolve this disagreement. Do we need to appoint a surveyor or is it up to my neighbour to provide evidence that the defects are a result of our work?
Thank you
It’s helpful.
I am hoping you may be able to help with a general issue regarding work in breach of the Party Wall Award.
An Award was issued, which purely showed that the work to be undertaken to a party wall was the insertion of steel beams to support a loft conversion. Detailed plans were also submitted and included in the Party Wall Award. Several weeks after the commencement of works, the builders extended the shared chimney stack to twice it’s original height.
I complained to my nominated surveyor that the work was outside of what was stated in the Party Wall Award and therefore was in breach of the Award. The response from the surveyor was that as the extension to the chimneystack was not detailed in the Award, then it had nothing to do with him and that it was a civil claim for trespass. Furthermore, as the chimneystack had already been built, the Party Wall Act was not retrospective and therefore could not be used.
The Party Wall Act states in Section 7 (5) (b) that ‘no deviation shall be made from the plans, sections or particulars except such as may be agreed between the owners …… or in accordance with Section 10.’
I can advise that within the detailed plans attached to the Award and forming part of the Award, there is no reference at all to the extension of the chimneystack. It is also my view that the chimneystack is far higher than it needs to be and that a simple extension of the flues was all that was required to clear the top of the loft extension.
So the question is – if there is a breach of Section 7 (5)(b) of the Party Wall Act, what are powers of the surveyors to request a modification or removal of the unauthorised structure? Is there any claim against a surveyor, if their duties under the Act are shown to be deficient. Any references to actual court cases of a similar nature would be most helpful.
Many thanks for any assistance you may be able to provide.
Hi is it permissive to put a practice up on a party wall without planning permission or being at least made aware that this was happening
My neighbour has caused extensive damages and heave to my floor c£50000
Both surveyors agree damage occurred and that it happened during the works.
They don’t know how it happened and are saying that therefore I cannot claim
How can I get recompense?
My neighbour has done some works on the party wall without asking us and has no permission. If I remove what he has done would I be breaking the law ? He wont acknowledge and letters we write to sort the problem.
I live in a ex council house (mortgaged ) the property attached to mine is still council owned . the local council carried out repairs on a valley in my roof without my knowledge at the time. 4 years ago . 2 days ago our bedroom ceiling came in do to heavy rain water getting under the tiles on the roof are they liable for the costs of repair as i dont want them to touch the roof . my builder as seen the valley up close and the repair was shoddy and not carried out correctly
My neighbour excavated against my boundary retaining wall and instructed by the council to use gabion baskets to re-enforce the wall.
I wasn’t made aware of this at the time which was circa 2013.
The neighbours have not issued a party wall agreement nor ever mentioned this to me.
I now suspect there is damage to the wall and would like advise if its been too long since the works were undertaken to take any action in relation to the party wall agreement not been instigated and the possibility that their work caused the damage and made worse over the years?
Many thanks
We are unable to give advice but, if you are thinking of a claim in nuisance, the limitation period is six years from the accrual of the cause of action, that is, when a quantifiable or ascertainable loss was suffered.
However, if the nuisance is continuing over a long period, you may be able to recover your loss for the preceding six years.
Also, it should be noted that if you do not take action in relation to a nuisance until towards the end of the limitation period, there is a risk that defences may be raised, in particular, laches (which is an equitable defence whereby a party argues that the claimant has delayed in asserting its rights and, because of this delay, is no longer entitled to bring a claim). We cannot comment on whether such a defence would apply in any given situation.
I read this article with some interest when i was goign through this issue and feel that it has really helped me gather where I stood. Whilst I am not a party wall advisor and cannot comment on this I will say that https://www.wlbuildingsurveyors.co.uk/ were exceptional in their approch to our party wall agreement.
I am interested in the damages payable under the PWA in the event that neighbouring works cause a property to subside. I understand that the damages would cover underpinning to fix the subsidence. However, the affect of subsidence on a property is greater than this, the property value is permanently reduced, The buildings insurance premiums massively increased and the ability to secure a mortgage against the property reduced. Is this something that is typically dealt with in a party wall award?
I am wondering about what obligations and benefits accrue to a purchaser of an adjoining property and whether there is a maximum time period that a PWA would be enforceable. Specifically, I purchased a terraced home where the attached house had excavated a basement (all PWA were in place and signed off upon completion). The attached home is no longer owned by the owners who entered into the original PWA. I am now excavating a basement and have discovered that the underpinning of my neighbours basement spilled onto my property. The original basement was excavated over 10 years ago. Do I potentially have rights under the original agreements although I was not a party to them and the original parties have both sold years ago?
Is there a time limit to make a claim against the developer for party wall breaches or identifying issues later? Also if the party wall works was complete but there are issues that would carry rework and this was identified after 12 months is the pwa invalid.
Hello – through total ignorance we didn’t get a 3rd party wall agreement when we changed the flat roof on the existing extension into a sloping one. This was 3 years ago and whilst the neighbour has never complained about any damage caused by cutting into the wall for the tiles – because we now have issues with them due to us asking if he could put up higher fences (they look into our garden and house all the time and I have small kids who like to run around the house naked) they are now threatening to sue us for not doing an agreement. Note they never said anything at the time of the works just 3 years later. I am unsure what to do now as I feel every time we ask for something they are going to hold that over us and bully us. Can they do that this long after the event?
There is the Institution of Party Wall Surveyors (IPWS).
They give free 15mins advice over the phone.
My neighbours had a loft extension involving an RSJ and about three years later cracks started appearing down our adjoining wall. We agreed not to have a PWS when the works were done. What should I do now?
Boundary wall collapsed which is jointly owned with no party wall agreement. Neighbour is about to party wall agreement in place but says nsighbours cannot be involved in preliminary discussions unless they commit to being involved financially. I have no money to pay for repairs. All the rubble fell into my garden. They refuse to help with removing rubble saying it will be cheaper to do it once construction starts later on. Meanwhile my garden is unusable and damaged further. A. Can they force me to pay if I do not have money? My only asset is my home/ I am worried I would lose it as the wall is stone and rebuilding is going to be expensive. B. They won’t help with removal of rubble at all.
Hello,
Firstly great post, very informative. I have a question, similar to many here but with a subtle twist.
A previous neighbour had a loft conversion carried out (a few years after ours). We signed the party wall agreement and all seemed well. The owner sold the property approx. 2 years ago to new owners (with whom we get on well with).
I was in the eves a couple of weeks ago (we use it for storage) and noticed that there is an RSJ from the neighbour’s property sticking through the party wall and in our property by about 50mm. There has been no attempt of making good around the hole or joist and there is still rubble on the floor. I really have four questions (and I know you can’t give legal advice), but: 1, In the first instance, who do I speak to about this? 2, Surely this bridges the fire break between the two buildings? 3, Who would pay for any repairs? 4, Is there likely to be compensation for damage caused, or just for the cost of the making good?
Many thanks for your time.
Hi there – here’s a riddle for you.
1.Neighbour upstairs did works to his entire floor (removed and replaced), 2.5 years ago. He refused to let his builder come to my flat before, during or after the works.
2. The freeholder sent a surveyor to check the works but again would not let their surveyor come to check my flat the other side of the party wall (bizarre). They say noise is not their issue and that the works are structurally sound.
3. The works have caused cosmetic damage to my ceiling but more importantly the works mean that now, every time someone even walks in the flat upstairs, the floor itself emits very loud noises – sometimes 70db loud. It’s crazy and has been going on for 2.5 years already.
4. Obviously there’s a problem with the new floor and/or joists. Plus he’s damaged my ceiling.
5. Owner of upstairs never engaged with PWA nor did any surveys before his works.
6. I’ve spoken to surveyors who say they are happy to come and do a post-PWA survey but none of them seem to know how to enforce the act. I am aware also that I’d have to pay for 2 or 3 of these surveyors as the owner of upstairs is unlikely to engage.
7. I can’t afford to go down nuisance route which I’ve been told could cost £500k.
8. I do not want to have to go to court over the PWA but is this the only way it is enforceable? Is there any other way? Does anyone know of a surveyor who can take care of the whole issue from beginning to end?
Many thanks